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Astrological Murders
[edit]Someone did an extreme amount of research to list these victims and find citations. However, the only reason this victim list was in the article is because of a "tentative connection" seen by police at the time between them and the Zodiac murders. The only cited source for that is Graysmith's book. Given the tenuous connection, and the bulk of the article, it seemed best to remove the list of victims. I'm including it here in case someone wants to restore it. There is already so much information in this article that it doesn't seem wise to weigh it down with extensive detail about murders that aren't definitively committed by the Zodiac. It certainly seems that there is enough material here for a separate article:
* Elaine Louise Davis, 17, who disappeared on December 1, 1969, from her home in Walnut Creek, California. On December 19, the body of a young woman – eventually identified as Davis after an exhumation in 2000 – was discovered floating off Light House Point near Santa Cruz.[1][2]
- Leona LaRell Roberts, 16, whose nude body was found ten days before the winter solstice on the beach at Bolinas Lagoon in Marin County, on December 28, 1969. She had been kidnapped from her boyfriend's home on December 10. Her death was treated as a homicide, although the official cause was listed as "exposure" by the medical examiner.[3][4]
- Cosette Ann Ellison, 15, whose nude body was found in a ravine seventeen days before the vernal equinox. The cause of her death was undetermined. She had been abducted on March 3, 1970, from her residence in Moraga, California, as she got off the school bus at 3:20 p.m.[5]
- Patricia Ann King, 20, who was found strangled and discarded in a rural gully at Diablo Valley College. She was nude from the waist down but had not been raped.[6]
- Judith Ann Hakari, 23, who was last seen leaving work at Sutter Medical Center in Sacramento at 11:30 p.m. on March 7, 1970,[7] thirteen days before the equinox. She was discovered, nude and bludgeoned, in an overgrown ravine off Ponderosa Way, near Weimar on April 26.[8]
- Marie Antoinette Anstey, 23, who was kidnapped in Vallejo after being stunned by a blow to the head, and then drowned. Her body was recovered in rural Lake County on March 21, and an autopsy revealed traces of mescaline in her bloodstream.[9]
- Eva Lucienne Blau, 17, who was found clubbed to death and dumped in a roadside gully near Santa Rosa during the equinox on March 20, 1970. The medical examiner discovered drugs in her circulatory system. She was last seen on March 12, leaving Jack London Hall after telling friends that she was heading home.[10]
- Carol Beth Hilburn, 22, who was found beaten to death in a ravine on November 13, 1970. She was last seen at Lloyd Hickey’s Forty Grand Club in Sacramento on November 14 at approximately 5:00 a.m.[11] Hilburn had been stripped of her clothing except for her underwear, which was found around her knees. She had been beaten about the face, and had a deep cut to her throat.
- Denise Kathleen Anderson, 22, who disappeared on April 13, 1971, having been last seen by one of her roommates at 5:30 a.m. at their residence in Sacramento. She has not been seen since.[12][13]
- Susan Marie Lynch, 22, who was discovered murdered on July 31, 1971, having been buried alive near East Levee Road in Sacramento, one-half mile north of Del Paso Road and 0.6 miles southwest of the Hilburn dump site.[14]
- Linda Diane Uhlig, 19, who was found in a ditch alongside a rural road beaten to death at Half Moon Bay on March 28, 1972, six days after the vernal equinox. Her skull had been smashed and it appeared that her attacker had tried to decapitate her.[15]
- Lynn Derrick, 24, who was discovered in Noe Valley, San Francisco, on July 26, 1972, at 4:15 a.m. She had been strangled and a sock had been forced into her mouth, but no sexual molestation had taken place. Derrick had been abducted from her home approximately two hours earlier, at around 2:00 a.m., when a female neighbour reported hearing a disturbance, a dragging sound, and a car speeding away.[16]
- ^ "Elaine Davis, Kidnapping and Homicide (1969)". Walnut Creek Police Department. Archived from the original on February 25, 2024. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ Goodyear, Charlie (May 16, 2001). "Body of girl missing since '69 identified". SFGate. Archived from the original on September 7, 2023. Retrieved September 7, 2023.
- ^ Contra Costa Times (newspaper), December 30, 1969, page 1.
- ^ Concord Transcript (newspaper), January 15, 1970, page 2.
- ^ "THE MURDER OF LEONA LARELL ROBERTS". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on September 28, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "THE MURDER OF PATRICIA KING". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on September 22, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "After 46 Years, Bride-to-Be Murders Remain Unsolved". FOX40. October 6, 2016. Archived from the original on September 21, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "THE MURDER OF JUDITH HAKARI". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on September 23, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ Napa Valley Register (newspaper), March 25, 1970, page 2.
- ^ Napa Valley Register (newspaper), April 15, 1970, page 15
- ^ "THE MURDER OF CAROL BETH HILBURN". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on September 25, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "THE DISAPPEARANCE OF DENISE ANDERSON". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on September 23, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "Denise Kathleen Anderson". The Charley Project. Archived from the original on October 2, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "THE MURDER OF SUSAN MARIE LYNCH". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on December 4, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "Authorities take new look at 50-year-old Coastside killing that still shocks conscience". Half Moon Bay Review. March 29, 2022. Archived from the original on January 21, 2024. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
- ^ "THE FINAL DAY". Zodiac Ciphers. Archived from the original on December 7, 2023. Retrieved September 14, 2023.
Two Suspect Photo Composite Sketches
[edit]Should be noted in the original photo composite sketch at the top of the page that there were two different profiles made of the suspects involved in the case, and that the first sighting of a person of interest that was seen in the Lake Berryessa attack was later placed below in the page, as an alternative suspect. This evidentiary fact would substantiate the suspicions that there were two original suspects found to be at the scene of the first canonical crime. One in the costume, and one seen driving around and in the parking lot waiting, smoking cigarettes.
It is obvious that the moniker illusion of a single suspect behind a string of murders is used in the main page's link, whereas the actual evidence shows that there was another person of interest that appeared in the historical records of the investigations, BEFORE the composite was made by the Kathleen John's suspect.
The request for an edit would be to arrange a side-by-side line-up of the two suspects and allow for the rest of the page to host discussions about the involvement of each.
Also to note that Oranchek's research is widely reported but not accepted here as a breakthrough.
Was it decided that it was not a valid break of the Z340? 2600:1011:B332:3C3D:31F7:5382:C2A3:4659 (talk) 05:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @2600:1011:B332:3C3D:31F7:5382:C2A3:4659 "allow for hosting discussion" wikipedia is not a discussion forum, so I am not sure what you request here. if there are media out there that are to wikipedia source standards and report that there is more than one suspect, it could go in. otherwise, not. that's how things work here. 2A02:FE1:6085:6500:99FD:6EF8:62B6:3FBC (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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The Zodiac claimed that the map and the cipher would reveal where he had buried his bomb. Z32 has never been definitively decoded and no bomb was never located.
For grammatical correctness, the text should be changed from "Z32 has never been definitively decoded and no bomb was never located" to "Z32 has never been definitively decoded and no bomb was ever located." Or "Z32 has never been definitively decoded and a bomb was never located."
Regards. Joshthornton (talk) 14:59, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Time sequence seems "wrong"
[edit]You have " ... Between 11:05–10 p.m., Faraday ... " . What does that mean? 2001:8003:E40F:9601:998C:AA9D:2DFB:522C (talk) 00:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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